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everybody we have threats of government shutdown in the past -- the famous showdown with newt gingrich and clinton. when you have divided government, you have clashes of major philosophical difference. the key is being able to have an element of compromise as part of that process. that is exactly the place we are in right now, trying to find that point. >> the best model for all of you who are working so hard on this may well be speilberg's movie about lincoln. lincoln made deals. you know what, he achieved great, great goals. it goes to the point you are making -- politicians are supposed to play politics, that is not a dirty word. >> the legendary "bloomberg view" columnist -- margaret carlson. >> i had this plan for a couple weeks -- i thought, this could happen. when you said you cannot get people in the corner as the president has with the tax increase on the wealthy -- here is the plan. on december 31, the bush tax cuts expire. after you have your champagne and your funny hats on, on january 1 at 12:01 a.m., there is a middle-class tax cut and the top rate is 39.6%, then they are cut to 37%,
everybody we have threats of government shutdown in the past -- the famous showdown with newt gingrich and clinton. when you have divided government, you have clashes of major philosophical difference. the key is being able to have an element of compromise as part of that process. that is exactly the place we are in right now, trying to find that point. >> the best model for all of you who are working so hard on this may well be speilberg's movie about lincoln. lincoln made deals. you...
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if he's in office in 2014 maybe we'll see a clinton/brown rematch. >> what did you learn today? >> that the democrats are not so optimistic about new jersey. they are optimistic about virginia it seems. but sandy seemed to be a good thing for chris christie. >> and also politics in virginia leading up to the attorney general who the governor may run as an independent. >> the attorney general who traditionally waits his turn, moves up to luents governor and then moves up to governor, a guy who is a big dialing of the conservative fan base and the republican party in virginia. the luents governor is set up to run for governor four years ago then had to wait another attorney general. he is not happy about this. he is -- according to "the washington examiner" he is thinking about running as an independent. the committee chairman, the clirn fundraiser would be the governor of virginia. if you would have told me that five years ago i would have called you nuts. >> one state we did not walk about today is wisconsin. it should be interesting because scott walker coming out of the succes
if he's in office in 2014 maybe we'll see a clinton/brown rematch. >> what did you learn today? >> that the democrats are not so optimistic about new jersey. they are optimistic about virginia it seems. but sandy seemed to be a good thing for chris christie. >> and also politics in virginia leading up to the attorney general who the governor may run as an independent. >> the attorney general who traditionally waits his turn, moves up to luents governor and then moves up...
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going back to the clinton tax rates, remember, the average american family has taken a hit. median income four years ago was $54,000 a year. it is about $50,000 a year now. this portion of the population has been squeezed. adding taxes on 90% will not be helpful. how much do you want folks to bear? freezing those tax rates for the overwhelming majority of americans is a smart thing to do. host: you said fight later on. guest: the fight would start the next day. we could do what i'm talking about, and negotiations could continue. doing what i'm talking about does not violate what either side is fighting over. they both say this is something we want to do. why not make sure we do not have some last-minute failure at the end of december. guest: what gives you confidence that democrats would agree later on? guest: this is where i disagree with some of my colleagues. they seem to think the american people are leveraged, and this is the democrats leverage. our leverage is in the spending and entitlement issues. the president and his negotiators are smart and able people. they know
going back to the clinton tax rates, remember, the average american family has taken a hit. median income four years ago was $54,000 a year. it is about $50,000 a year now. this portion of the population has been squeezed. adding taxes on 90% will not be helpful. how much do you want folks to bear? freezing those tax rates for the overwhelming majority of americans is a smart thing to do. host: you said fight later on. guest: the fight would start the next day. we could do what i'm talking...
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every incumbent, clinton, reagan, bush, clinton had a record to run on, but they grilled him. >> let's go back to the meeting. you bring up some other things in this clip. [video clip] >> in 1960, we had 36% of black males incarcerated. i was rereading the report written for president johnson about the state of black americans in 1964. then i thought about today where we have 65% of blacks in prison. i look back at the report and i saw at the time, it said the biggest thing he saw affecting black americans was the breakdown of the black family. >> two issues. 65% of black americans are in prison today? >> it is quite an enormous amount. i think it is about 55%. i do not have the -- >> why? i have heard people say the reason is because of the laws that are written against the black folks, and the drugs, crack cocaine verses the powder. >> shelby steele, a great professor at stanford and a great published author, writes a lot about this. he comes to mind. this was written when the trayvon martin shooting happened. it is not the sentencing guidelines the reason why you have a disproportio
every incumbent, clinton, reagan, bush, clinton had a record to run on, but they grilled him. >> let's go back to the meeting. you bring up some other things in this clip. [video clip] >> in 1960, we had 36% of black males incarcerated. i was rereading the report written for president johnson about the state of black americans in 1964. then i thought about today where we have 65% of blacks in prison. i look back at the report and i saw at the time, it said the biggest thing he saw...
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hillary clinton about 2016. she says that it is flattering, i'm not interested. >> she does not really say that. anybody who saw the video that introduced her at the conference last weekend would have no doubt that she has least thinking seriously about running. it is like the video that you show at a convention. >> a week is a lifetime in politics, and 3 or four years is literally an eternity. but hillary clinton is remarkably advantageous position at this moment. one that would have been unimaginable after the disastrous campaign, and let's be frank, internally it was a disastrous campaign in 2008, where she started out as the prohibitive front-runner and favorite. but now she is rehabilitated. there are second acts in america. she has had a second act and it has been terrific. >> i recall that prior to that election we were talking about hillary clinton and rudy giuliani as the candidates, prohibited the favorites. >> in that election i said neither one would be the nominee and that turned out to be the k str
hillary clinton about 2016. she says that it is flattering, i'm not interested. >> she does not really say that. anybody who saw the video that introduced her at the conference last weekend would have no doubt that she has least thinking seriously about running. it is like the video that you show at a convention. >> a week is a lifetime in politics, and 3 or four years is literally an eternity. but hillary clinton is remarkably advantageous position at this moment. one that would...
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restoring the clinton tax rates is something i would support. we supported them back in 1991 when bill clinton was running for president. no problem on that. it is a reasonable adjustment, but may not be sufficient to reach the targets we need, and it does not help us in bipartisan bargaining, reaching a deal. i hope as this negotiation -- we ought to be at the irish times -- that they will not make a fetish of marginal tax rates if they should go up some, but do they need to go back where they were? i do not know. lots of ways to increase taxes on rich people, and it may be that a hybrid of marginal tax increases and the kind of base- broadening, loophole closing, expenditure closing that simpson-bowles proposed should be part of the mix. raising marginal rates does not guarantee you will get your intended target. very rich people depend more on investment income than on their labor income. if you want to get them -- and this is where mitt romney was able to pay a 14% tax rate on earnings of $14 million -- so if you are trying to get the super-
restoring the clinton tax rates is something i would support. we supported them back in 1991 when bill clinton was running for president. no problem on that. it is a reasonable adjustment, but may not be sufficient to reach the targets we need, and it does not help us in bipartisan bargaining, reaching a deal. i hope as this negotiation -- we ought to be at the irish times -- that they will not make a fetish of marginal tax rates if they should go up some, but do they need to go back where they...
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former chief of staff of bill clinton. john has to leave us early. we have the director of the urban institute's tax policy center. we'll see if you two disagree on anything. we have will marshal from the progressive policy institute. we have senator bob packwood from oregon, former chairman of the senate finance committee, part of the 1986 negotiations. and the other folks here have been part of the conversation. my only message to the new arrivals, please jump in whenever you see fit. we have an hour to an hour and a half. if you hear something you want to weigh in on, don't wait for me. we're talking now about the other very small issue in this issue and that is tax policy and how best to put the nation on a sustainable fiscal path. the question of revenue, how much, where to get it, the options on the table and would like your thoughts. as you heard from chairman bachus. they need ideas to bridge this gap because we appear to be at a stale mate. i turn it over to john to get your thoughts knowing he has to leave and the center for american progre
former chief of staff of bill clinton. john has to leave us early. we have the director of the urban institute's tax policy center. we'll see if you two disagree on anything. we have will marshal from the progressive policy institute. we have senator bob packwood from oregon, former chairman of the senate finance committee, part of the 1986 negotiations. and the other folks here have been part of the conversation. my only message to the new arrivals, please jump in whenever you see fit. we have...
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we have the same tax rates that we have when bill clinton was president. significant cuts in defense and also significant human services can you tell us. >> katie, let me ask you, before you respond to what governor dean is saying. there is logic to what howard dean is saying. i don't happen to agree with it. but i know where he's coming from. katie, let me ask you this -- katie can't hear me. we'll wait for her to get back hooked in. howard, what about the notion that i'm posing tonight -- i've said this a few times -- republicans better be careful. they're not going down your road and the democrats aren't going down your road. you have middle class tax cuts for the democrats and it sometimes sounds to me as an old reagan conservative that the republicans better watch themselves because sometimes it sounds like they are kind of defending rich people. that's their whole mantra, just defending rich people. and i think that's not where they should be. >> i would agree. if i were politically advising the republicans, which i'm certainly not, i think tom colts
we have the same tax rates that we have when bill clinton was president. significant cuts in defense and also significant human services can you tell us. >> katie, let me ask you, before you respond to what governor dean is saying. there is logic to what howard dean is saying. i don't happen to agree with it. but i know where he's coming from. katie, let me ask you this -- katie can't hear me. we'll wait for her to get back hooked in. howard, what about the notion that i'm posing tonight...
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a return to that, what we saw during the clinton years. what will that do to the economy? >> it will hurt, but it is necessary. let me make a few points. first, i think tax reform is obviously better than raising tax rates. raising the top marginal tax rate is less desirable than try to scale back reductions in the tax code. i think there are some reasonable approaches to tax reform. working for the day, going to the code to decide what is good and what is bad. given that is not going to be the case, i think a proposal like maya's or even the president's is reasonable, and there is a lot of agreement for tax reform. i think it is $600 billion from the president. i think there is room here for compromise. the second that i will say is that this tax reform will not generate enough revenue. $4 trillion. by my calculation, we do not need $4 trillion, but it is a bigger number than just tax reform will be able to generate, so in that context, we will have to let tax rates rise, and if we had to do that with an amount that would do the least economic damage, it would allow that
a return to that, what we saw during the clinton years. what will that do to the economy? >> it will hurt, but it is necessary. let me make a few points. first, i think tax reform is obviously better than raising tax rates. raising the top marginal tax rate is less desirable than try to scale back reductions in the tax code. i think there are some reasonable approaches to tax reform. working for the day, going to the code to decide what is good and what is bad. given that is not going to...
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plus, hillary clinton in 2016. some stunning numbers about the ground work and john mcafee on the run as his neighbor is found murdered. our martin savidge went on the hunt, tracked him down. he's "outfront." e emts gave me. now, i'm on a bayer aspirin regimen. [ male announcer ] be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. [ woman ] learn from my story. [ female announcer ] holiday cookies are a big job. everything has to be just right. perfection is in the details. ♪ get to holiday fun faster with pillsbury cookie dough. get to holiday fun faster energy is being produced to power our lives. while energy development comes with some risk, north america's natural gas producers are committed to safely and responsibly providing generations of cleaner-burning energy for our country, drilling thousands of feet below fresh water sources within self-contained well systems. and, using state-of-the-art monitoring technologies, rigorous practices help ensure our operations are safe and clean for our
plus, hillary clinton in 2016. some stunning numbers about the ground work and john mcafee on the run as his neighbor is found murdered. our martin savidge went on the hunt, tracked him down. he's "outfront." e emts gave me. now, i'm on a bayer aspirin regimen. [ male announcer ] be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. [ woman ] learn from my story. [ female announcer ] holiday cookies are a big job. everything has to be just right. perfection is in the...
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a combination of allowing the rates on high earners to go back up to what they were under president clinton, and reducing the value of tax deductions and other tax benefits that they get. before i get to how much can be raised by the second, let me just say the president is very, very supportive of curbing tax deductions for high-income households. it's been a part of his plan from his very first budget. in fact, he was and remains the only major leaguer in washington that has put forward a specific, explicit plan that would limit those tax benefits for high-income households that's been examined by the joint committee on taxation, which is the official referee for these issues in congress. that plan, though, doesn't raise the revenue that you need. so out of the president's $1.6 trillion, $950 billion comes from decoupling. decoupling is the high-income rates going away, the middle- class tax cuts becoming permanent. that gets you $950 billion of revenue. the question is could you plausibly replace that revenue just by limiting tax expenditures. there have been lots of different ideas out
a combination of allowing the rates on high earners to go back up to what they were under president clinton, and reducing the value of tax deductions and other tax benefits that they get. before i get to how much can be raised by the second, let me just say the president is very, very supportive of curbing tax deductions for high-income households. it's been a part of his plan from his very first budget. in fact, he was and remains the only major leaguer in washington that has put forward a...
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host: what do you think about hillary clinton's future, hillary clinton in 2016? >> i think hillary clinton is the next logical step in a progressive society in america that we need. my grandfather was a democrat in delaware, he served two terms and i think -- i think she's what we really need. and i think that's what we need for the country to move ahead. host: steven an independent in connecticut. good morning to you. caller: good morning, thanks for taking my call. i really like hillary clinton, i think she's a hard worker, i think her old man is a hard worker too and whitewater was like three wars ago. it's a long time ago. but i'd like to see jeb bush also run against hillary clinton. i think those are two no nonsense personalities that can move our nation forward. thanks. host: so hey, steven, if jeb bush, if it's a bush-clinton race, for whom would you vote? caller: oh, gosh. i would lean toward jeb at this point because he has been really pushing education and education is one of my things. so right now he's got me. host: that's stephen, independent. who d
host: what do you think about hillary clinton's future, hillary clinton in 2016? >> i think hillary clinton is the next logical step in a progressive society in america that we need. my grandfather was a democrat in delaware, he served two terms and i think -- i think she's what we really need. and i think that's what we need for the country to move ahead. host: steven an independent in connecticut. good morning to you. caller: good morning, thanks for taking my call. i really like...
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plus, hillary clinton in 2016. some stunning numbers about the ground work and john mcafee on the run as his neighbor is found murdered. our martin savidge went on the hunt, tracked him down. he's "outfront." uff your nose. what? [ male announcer ] it doesn't have a decongestant. no way. [ male announcer ] sorry. alka-seltzer plus fights your worst cold symptoms plus has a fast acting decongestant to relieve your stuffy nose. [ sighs ] thanks! [ male announcer ] you're welcome. that's...
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with secretary lahood and governor clinton on the train. by thanksgiving, we began delivering that same 110 mph to regular amtrak passengers every day. inner-city passenger rail is already stimulating development on the corridor and in cities like normal breast tissue has attracted $200 million in related private investment. we have creatred 250 news jobs in rochelle where rail cars are being built. i witnessed caltrans giving the manufacturer of the notice to proceed. collaboration began in 1980 and gained traction in the 1990's whena 10 state initiative prepared a plan estate development for high-speed rail to upgrade existing track and passenger rail frequencies and use new technologies to enable faster, safer passenger trains on all of our existing rail corridors. with years of solid planning in place, illinois and its midwest partners were ready to move quickly on april 16 in 2009 when president obama called for a national network that connected high-speed rail corridors. secretary lahood earlier compared the president's vision to the
with secretary lahood and governor clinton on the train. by thanksgiving, we began delivering that same 110 mph to regular amtrak passengers every day. inner-city passenger rail is already stimulating development on the corridor and in cities like normal breast tissue has attracted $200 million in related private investment. we have creatred 250 news jobs in rochelle where rail cars are being built. i witnessed caltrans giving the manufacturer of the notice to proceed. collaboration began in...
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he didn't say they have to go up to clinton levels. that's where i think you begin to see the outlines of the deal that we will end up having, hopefully, at the end of the year. >> do you see signs of republicans that, yes, i have heard this too from actually republican aides. i haven't -- not anybody that was willing to put their name on it and would vote on it, but who said, you know, we sort of see that there probably will be something around tax rates, but it won't be back up to the clinton levels, and it may be for not the $250,000 limit. is there anything up there that makes you think republicans would give on the rates? >> republicans have told me privately they will give on the rates. they are not in the interest after this election in defending millionaires. the rates go -- the threshold for tax increases moves off of 250,000 to 500, 750,000, 800,000, a million, they will budge on rates. it will probably end up being somewhere around 37%. it's time for some give. they don't want to say it at the mikes, but they've been saying
he didn't say they have to go up to clinton levels. that's where i think you begin to see the outlines of the deal that we will end up having, hopefully, at the end of the year. >> do you see signs of republicans that, yes, i have heard this too from actually republican aides. i haven't -- not anybody that was willing to put their name on it and would vote on it, but who said, you know, we sort of see that there probably will be something around tax rates, but it won't be back up to the...
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i support going back to the clinton levels. do you agree? we should look at raising taxes on the wealthiest rather than just -- >> i think we need to do both. if you are going down my path, we need both. there is no way to get to that number with tax reform alone. if you consider we will not take away a charitable deduction and if your goal is not to raise taxes from lower and middle-income houses. there is no way to do the arithmetic. there is no good way of doing it to raise that kind of revenue. we need to do both. we need tax reform and we need higher tax rates on upper- income households. >> it seems to me you could do the tax rates at the end of the year because then you could make the kind of deal that you want. to some of the closing of the loopholes. you could bring the corporate tax rate down and work on the debt by closing the loopholes and subsidies. >> tax reform is complicated. nail down a framework and then go to work and try to figure this out. in terms of corporate tax reform, that is absolutely necessary. the goal would be
i support going back to the clinton levels. do you agree? we should look at raising taxes on the wealthiest rather than just -- >> i think we need to do both. if you are going down my path, we need both. there is no way to get to that number with tax reform alone. if you consider we will not take away a charitable deduction and if your goal is not to raise taxes from lower and middle-income houses. there is no way to do the arithmetic. there is no good way of doing it to raise that kind...
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restoring the clinton tax rates is something i would support. we supported them back in 1991 when bill clinton was running for president. no problem on that. it is a reasonable adjustment, but may not be sufficient to reach the targets we need and it does not help us in bipartisan bargaining, reaching a deal. i hope as this negotiation -- we ought to be at the irish times -- that they will not make a fetish of marginal tax rates street if they should go up some, but do they need to go back where they work? i do not know. lots of ways to increase taxes on rich people, and it may be that a hybrid of marginal tax increases and the kind of base- broadening loophole closing expenditure closing that simpson-bowles proposed should be part of the mix. raising marginal rates does not guarantee you will get your intended target. a very rich people depend more on investment income than on their labour income. if you want to get them -- and this is where mitt romney was able to pay a 14% tax rate on earnings of $14 million -- so if you are trying to get the
restoring the clinton tax rates is something i would support. we supported them back in 1991 when bill clinton was running for president. no problem on that. it is a reasonable adjustment, but may not be sufficient to reach the targets we need and it does not help us in bipartisan bargaining, reaching a deal. i hope as this negotiation -- we ought to be at the irish times -- that they will not make a fetish of marginal tax rates street if they should go up some, but do they need to go back...
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also, a piece on hillary clinton. president truman's oldest grandson, who was the first truman to travel to japan. tonight on c-span 3, a look at hiroshima. a talk with his trip and what he learned it. learned through his words teacher made that his grandfather went through and now he went through in hiroshige of. 6:00 for those on the west coast on c-span 3. here is a preview. [video clip] >> i tried to look down and i saw so many dead bodies floating on the surface. people --'s so many the people suffered from the burned bodies. they went into water. it jumped into the river. >> that was a survivor of the bombings in hiroshima telling her story for the first time to daniel on his first visit to the two cities where the bomb was dropped the in 1945. you are listening for the first time. what did you see your role as as you were listening to it? >> just to be there to listen to her and to let her speak and to let her do this for the first time. >> for her understanding she was talking to the grandson of the man who ma
also, a piece on hillary clinton. president truman's oldest grandson, who was the first truman to travel to japan. tonight on c-span 3, a look at hiroshima. a talk with his trip and what he learned it. learned through his words teacher made that his grandfather went through and now he went through in hiroshige of. 6:00 for those on the west coast on c-span 3. here is a preview. [video clip] >> i tried to look down and i saw so many dead bodies floating on the surface. people --'s so many...
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my first choice is hillary clinton. i think she's the front-runner amongst the colleagues i've talked to. dozens of my colleagues since the election. she's a front-runner. i think you give her about six months. >> jennifer: that's exactly what i said today. six months. then we start -- although yesterday when she was writing the note to the losers in new york, i was saying that, to me, is a great sign she is, in fact, on the path to running. >> well, bill clinton was the most valuable player out there. >> jennifer: absolutely. >> for the obama/biden campaign other than the two principles on the ticket. of course, every governor, every senator, every member of congress who was elected is also a super delegate who will choose the next president. >> jennifer: i don't see how the force -- the force the inexorable pull of this from those who support her and those who love her is just going to be too great. she needs to go to a spa. she needs to take a relaxing -- take a break. do the exercises. what she wants to do. but six
my first choice is hillary clinton. i think she's the front-runner amongst the colleagues i've talked to. dozens of my colleagues since the election. she's a front-runner. i think you give her about six months. >> jennifer: that's exactly what i said today. six months. then we start -- although yesterday when she was writing the note to the losers in new york, i was saying that, to me, is a great sign she is, in fact, on the path to running. >> well, bill clinton was the most...
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we're proposing to let the rates go back to clinton levels. that would be a good thing to do as a sensible economic policy, and we want to combine that with tax reforms that will limit deductions. there's no surprise in this. we have been proposing this for a very long time. the president campaigned on it and i think that's where we're going to end up. and i think that's there going to be very broad support from the business community and from the american people for an agreement with roughly that shape. >> when you talked about limiting the deductions there have been proposals from governor romney during the presidential campaign, and from other republicans, when you talk about those limitations on deductions, do you include the charitable deduction and the home mortgage deduction? >> i think you're right to point out the essential problem in this, which is, if you try to limit deductions with a $25,000 cap, what you do is you end up hitting millions and millions -- actually 17 million americans -- a huge part of the revenue comes from that b
we're proposing to let the rates go back to clinton levels. that would be a good thing to do as a sensible economic policy, and we want to combine that with tax reforms that will limit deductions. there's no surprise in this. we have been proposing this for a very long time. the president campaigned on it and i think that's where we're going to end up. and i think that's there going to be very broad support from the business community and from the american people for an agreement with roughly...
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i mean,if their competitor in '16 is going to be hillary clinton, supported by bill clinton and presumably a still relatively popular president barack obama, trying to win that will be truly the super bowl. and the republican party today is incapable of competing at that level. and it's part of this cultural thing with our consultants. you start out thinking giving away 47% of the country, by the way, which included retirees, veterans. you know, it was an absurdity. and i think this is much more than mitt romney. we didn't blow it because of mitt romney. we blew it because of a party which has refused to engage the reality of american life and refused to take -- to think through what the average american needs for a better future. >> but recall what you said about 1964. in december 1964, lyndon johnson was re-elected. goldwater was finished. it was the end of the republican party. and at the end, the republicans nominated a man named richard nixon. and he became president. unthinkable. >> so you can have a tcampaign between hillary clinton and jeb bush, representing 36 years of bushes on n
i mean,if their competitor in '16 is going to be hillary clinton, supported by bill clinton and presumably a still relatively popular president barack obama, trying to win that will be truly the super bowl. and the republican party today is incapable of competing at that level. and it's part of this cultural thing with our consultants. you start out thinking giving away 47% of the country, by the way, which included retirees, veterans. you know, it was an absurdity. and i think this is much...
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bush and clinton administrations. both of you went to the same university. i'm sure you can agree on everything today. dr. zandi first. >> thank you for the opportunity. it is an honor to be here with kevin, a good friend of mine. let me say that these are my own personal views. lawmakers have to resolve three issues -- first, the fiscal cliff. second, raising the treasury debt ceiling, which as you know is becoming an issue rarely soon. third, achieving long-term fiscal sustainability. that is deficit reduction and tax increases and spending cuts that allow the gdp ratio to stabilize by the end of the decade. these three things need to be done now. in terms of the fiscal cliff, if policy is unchanged and we go over the cliff and there is still no change after that, the gdp in 2013 will 3.5 percentage points. subtract that and that is a severe recession. cbo and others are probably us are underestimating how severe that will be because confidence is very weak. it is unclear how the reserve would response to this. we need to scale back from the cliff. at the
bush and clinton administrations. both of you went to the same university. i'm sure you can agree on everything today. dr. zandi first. >> thank you for the opportunity. it is an honor to be here with kevin, a good friend of mine. let me say that these are my own personal views. lawmakers have to resolve three issues -- first, the fiscal cliff. second, raising the treasury debt ceiling, which as you know is becoming an issue rarely soon. third, achieving long-term fiscal sustainability....
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the best way to do that is go back to clinton era taxes. i actually have mixed feelings about striking a deal where the rich folks pay more taxes. i think they should pay more taxes, but i actually think going off clithe cliff is a bet solution than just charging people who make a lot of money what they were paying when bill clinton was president. >> the clinton tax rates worked well, and when you look at where we really are today, although the democrats are playing really tough on these top tax rates, they have conceded about 75% of the tax debate to republicans by agreeing with them on all of the otherç rates. >> that is true, aalthough there is a matter of timing. you know, i think part of what you have to look at here is it's really hrepublicans who force this conversation about having deficit reduction right now. we shouldn't have deficit reduction right now. we should focus on jobs and employment and continued stimulus for the economy, which i was really happy about the president at least had some of that in his plan. then you ask y
the best way to do that is go back to clinton era taxes. i actually have mixed feelings about striking a deal where the rich folks pay more taxes. i think they should pay more taxes, but i actually think going off clithe cliff is a bet solution than just charging people who make a lot of money what they were paying when bill clinton was president. >> the clinton tax rates worked well, and when you look at where we really are today, although the democrats are playing really tough on these...
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>> i think that -- i have so much respect and admiration for hillary clinton, secretary clinton has done an amazing job as secretary of state. i know she's earned and deserves and looking forward to the well-earned rest she's planning to take and she's an incredible leader who has a tremendous future as a leader of the united states of america. >> well, if you looked at the video that introduced her at the forum on friday night here, a the lot of people are suggesting that well-earned rest is only going to be a prelude to something else down the road and not -- >> we'll give her a little time to rest and then i'm sure that she'll be pressed into service and knowing secretary clinton, i'm sure she doesn't plan to rest very long. >> thanks very much. >> thank you. >> thank you, congresswoman. >> and coming up next, why won't the president sit down with john boehner? more from that new interview with president obama, next. [ fishing rod casting line, marching band playing ] [ male announcer ] the rhythm of life. [ whistle blowing ] where do you hear that beat? campbell's healthy request sou
>> i think that -- i have so much respect and admiration for hillary clinton, secretary clinton has done an amazing job as secretary of state. i know she's earned and deserves and looking forward to the well-earned rest she's planning to take and she's an incredible leader who has a tremendous future as a leader of the united states of america. >> well, if you looked at the video that introduced her at the forum on friday night here, a the lot of people are suggesting that...
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, chris cizilla indicates strong support for hillary clinton. she has really i guess she's the most popular figure in american politics. >> she is at her highest popularity rating that we have ever in "the washington post"/abc poll measured her and almost six in ten, 57% of americans, this isn't democrats, this is the american public broadly, want her to run for president in 2016. now, i would say, if she becomes a candidate, i think -- inevitably she'll be seen much more in that partisan atmosphere, some of her stratospheric numbers will drop down. i would say she has been skeptical very skeptical of running. if you look at these numbers if you have any interest of being the president of the united states this may be a hard race to say no to. >> i think the rest of the political world knows what is likely to happen. chris cizilla, thank you very much. susan page, always great to see you. >> coming up the fiscal fight continuing. he split with his party on taxes. what is republican tomb cole saying now? first as john boehner look lights the capi
, chris cizilla indicates strong support for hillary clinton. she has really i guess she's the most popular figure in american politics. >> she is at her highest popularity rating that we have ever in "the washington post"/abc poll measured her and almost six in ten, 57% of americans, this isn't democrats, this is the american public broadly, want her to run for president in 2016. now, i would say, if she becomes a candidate, i think -- inevitably she'll be seen much more in...
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we had higher tax rates under clinton and then lower tax rates under bush. these are policies we have passed in this country that have led to this. it has primarily been under republican leadership. if it does not mean democrats don't have some responsibility. host: peter welch is our guest until the top of the hour. the democrat from vermont, the chief deputy whip for the house leadership on the democratic side. we're talking about the so called "fiscal cliff" and our cameras have been covering all the events here in washington as both sides tried to negotiate their argument with. if you go to our web site, c- span.org, we have a special web pages at a side on the fiscal cliff and you can also send in your tweets. we will go to payton next in london, kentucky, a democrat. caller: thank you. i am one of the original baby boomers. i live in one of the poorest areas in the country, which is also heavily republican area of the country. i have always felt [indiscernible]. host: we are losing you. caller: this constant living curtailment from the republicans is a
we had higher tax rates under clinton and then lower tax rates under bush. these are policies we have passed in this country that have led to this. it has primarily been under republican leadership. if it does not mean democrats don't have some responsibility. host: peter welch is our guest until the top of the hour. the democrat from vermont, the chief deputy whip for the house leadership on the democratic side. we're talking about the so called "fiscal cliff" and our cameras have...
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secretary clinton was in algeria to discuss mali among other issues approximately a month ago. the third challenge in mali is terrorism. we are gravely concerned about the presence and activities of terrorists and extremist groups in northern mali. al qaeda in the islamic magrab, the movement for unity and jihad in west africa known as mujoa and other affiliated groups have exploited the political unrest created by the march coup and the northern rebellion to expand their safe havens in northern mali and to impose their ideology on local communities throughout the northern part of the country. while these tactics remain alien to the vast majority of the population in the affected areas, aqim and majoa have established at least temporary relationships with a number of groups in northern mali and currently control the key cities of timbuktu, and nidal. any attempt to militarily oust aqim from the area must be african-led, it must be malian-led. it must be well planned, well organized and well resourced to be successful. military plans must also account for civilian security and h
secretary clinton was in algeria to discuss mali among other issues approximately a month ago. the third challenge in mali is terrorism. we are gravely concerned about the presence and activities of terrorists and extremist groups in northern mali. al qaeda in the islamic magrab, the movement for unity and jihad in west africa known as mujoa and other affiliated groups have exploited the political unrest created by the march coup and the northern rebellion to expand their safe havens in...
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members of president clinton's economic team, people like bob rubin and larry podesta, have put their name to a plan that calls for $200 billion more in tax revenue than even the president is asking. for more now we have with us william cohen in new york, a columnist for the bloomberg view, and clarence page, a columnist for "the chicago tribune." welcome to both of you. clarence, one thing this makes plain is democrats are feeling confident in a fiscal cliff win. why not ask for more? >> well, they're certainly asking for more than president obama is asking, and that is the point here. they feel that the policies of the clinton era that gave us the prosperity that we saw back then would be good to impose now. they are really calling for a different kind of arrangement pushing for a simplification of the tax code that would include taxes on cigarettes and alcoholic beverages which would cross income lines, those kind of consumer taxes hit lower income tax people -- taxpayers as well as upper, and they want to get rid of the amt, that automatic tax that's designed to make sure that old
members of president clinton's economic team, people like bob rubin and larry podesta, have put their name to a plan that calls for $200 billion more in tax revenue than even the president is asking. for more now we have with us william cohen in new york, a columnist for the bloomberg view, and clarence page, a columnist for "the chicago tribune." welcome to both of you. clarence, one thing this makes plain is democrats are feeling confident in a fiscal cliff win. why not ask for...
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barack obama won, so they liked hillary clinton. if hillary clinton had won in 2008, you would hear lots of republicans saying, none of this would be happening if that idealistic barack obama had won instead. if hillary clinton is the nominee in 2016, this will be an election decided by three or four percentage points. it will not be a 57/30 election. >> it always tightens. i'm curious about the other side since you're talking about 2008. marco rubio and paul ryan both spoke at this dinner and they were -- these were speeches where they're trying to define themselves as who they are. both probably going to run in 2016. how would a rubio/ryan stack up against a hillary clinton? in a sense it sort of feels like 2008 reversed, right, except for experience would come on the democratic side with hillary and the youth and this sort of idealism might perhaps come from a rubio or ryan on the republican side? >> well, if i look at that poll you were referring to, hillary clinton is the overwhelming favorite among young people, especially you
barack obama won, so they liked hillary clinton. if hillary clinton had won in 2008, you would hear lots of republicans saying, none of this would be happening if that idealistic barack obama had won instead. if hillary clinton is the nominee in 2016, this will be an election decided by three or four percentage points. it will not be a 57/30 election. >> it always tightens. i'm curious about the other side since you're talking about 2008. marco rubio and paul ryan both spoke at this...
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going back to the clinton tax rate, the wealth of the average american families taking a terrific head meetinghouse clothing come four years ago when the president was about to do $4000 a year. this portion which is most of us has gotten squeezed preacher meant to say. i don't think adding extra taxes on 90% will number one be very helpful to them for helpful to the economic growth and number two, how much do you want folks to bear? again, freezing those tax rates for the overwhelming majority of americans is a smart thing to do. both sides say they want to. the fight was start the next day. i think we could do what i'm talking about the negotiations underway right now could continue and they should. again, doing what i'm talking about doesn't violate what either side is fighting over. they both say this is something we want to do. again, make sure we don't have some last-minute failure at the end of december. >> host: what gives you confidence democrats up later on agreed to extending tax cuts for the wealthiest americans? >> guest: this is where i disagree with republicans. the ameri
going back to the clinton tax rate, the wealth of the average american families taking a terrific head meetinghouse clothing come four years ago when the president was about to do $4000 a year. this portion which is most of us has gotten squeezed preacher meant to say. i don't think adding extra taxes on 90% will number one be very helpful to them for helpful to the economic growth and number two, how much do you want folks to bear? again, freezing those tax rates for the overwhelming majority...
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it would be a hillary clinton/david petraeus ticket. but i think that's kind of -- you know. >> we have to rewrite half of it. >> yes, well, although i mean -- we don't even need to go there. >> the hillary, what i've heard, is that the people who are in the financial end of hillary's campaign have been alerted that they got planning to do. some of them are also andrew cuomo fund-raisers and they are alert that there is planning they need to do. some of them are pretty conflicted. that's the best that i have on what she's thinking. >> i've talk to some of the fundraisers and they are planning. i think she is going to run. she is exhausted now. she'll take a couple -- she may not know she is going to run although i suspect she kind of does. she will take a couple years. and at this point she would be a very, very formidable candidate. depending on what happens over the next four years. mario cuomo used to say between now and then, a pope will be born which means, who the hell knows what's going to happen? the second obama term could be a
it would be a hillary clinton/david petraeus ticket. but i think that's kind of -- you know. >> we have to rewrite half of it. >> yes, well, although i mean -- we don't even need to go there. >> the hillary, what i've heard, is that the people who are in the financial end of hillary's campaign have been alerted that they got planning to do. some of them are also andrew cuomo fund-raisers and they are alert that there is planning they need to do. some of them are pretty...
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hillary clinton taking this picture with meryl streep. >> you want to win the world series. do you quit, 1-0? no. you keep going. you keep going. do you quit when you're done 1-0 in debates?
hillary clinton taking this picture with meryl streep. >> you want to win the world series. do you quit, 1-0? no. you keep going. you keep going. do you quit when you're done 1-0 in debates?
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and hillary clinton, as well as the white house, have called for the egyptians to engage in a broader dialogue because the stakes with egypt as one quarter of the arab population couldn't be greater. >> so you don't expect anything different than what we've heard from hillary clinton at this point? >> no, but if the tensions play out in a tougher way on the streets, i think the administration will be under pressure to do something or say something more publicly about what's happening. >> there are new developments in syria, robin opinion u. irobin. there are reports that syria is prepared to use chemical weapons. hillary clinton speak about it in brussels yesterday. >> we sent an unmistakable message we that an would cross a red line and those responsible would be held to account. we intend to make that view as clear as we possibly can be. >> how likely is is it that assad will give that order? >> the government was forced to close the airport because of fighting near, it took down the entire internet. his country is no longer just beleaguered, it is besieged. he can last a while long
and hillary clinton, as well as the white house, have called for the egyptians to engage in a broader dialogue because the stakes with egypt as one quarter of the arab population couldn't be greater. >> so you don't expect anything different than what we've heard from hillary clinton at this point? >> no, but if the tensions play out in a tougher way on the streets, i think the administration will be under pressure to do something or say something more publicly about what's...